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    20141121 01:09 trailing wife Dear Snowy Thing, you are one of our most restrained posters. If you actually flame someone, it's a certainty that they deserved it.
    20141121 00:48 Thing From Snowy Mountain Thanks for letting us know; I hope he gets better soon. In the meantime I'll try to refrain from flaming anyone (if you'll pardon the usenet-ism).
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    20141120 23:04 3dc includes the following That five person company, RD Amross, is a joint venture of Russian engine maker NPO Energomash and a U.S. partner, aerospace giant United Technologies. According to internal company documents that lay out the contract, Amross stands to collect $93 million in cost markups under its current multiyear deal to supply the RD-180 rocket engine.
    20141120 23:01 3dc Regarding the Russian rocket engines in Atlas, interesting stuff in this article http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34965.msg1290607#msg1290607
    20141120 20:58 OldSpook Time for what used to be called "longhair stuff" well before the time of hippies hijacking the term and inverting its meaning.

    The actual performance is allegedly 50 years old soon (1965 recording). Von Karajan at his early best (before he softened his style starting in the 70's), and the Berlin Philharmonic at its finest. This is perhaps the definitive performance of this piece. J. Strauss II: An der schönen blauen Donau, Op.314

    As selected by Kubrik for one of the greatest Sci Fi movies ever made. 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    This is one of my favorite orchestral pieces and favorite performances of all time. Its the only secular piece of music on my funeral list and it will be the last music heard while my face is still visible in this world.

    Enjoy - this is one of the things that reminds me that not all humans are mere animals.
    20141120 06:17 3dc ChiComs are launching spysats like candy lately: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/11/long-march-2d-yaogan-weixing-24-china/
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    20141119 23:29 Thing From Snowy Mountain Come to think of it, bits look like Mardi Gras.

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    20141119 10:31 Shipman Snowy as long as you can stagger to the rail on a a bad Sunday morning and hammer down Creole Magix Morningstars you are of the body. The sweat after 3 will wash the sins away as well as most lice. You fur will soften and turn a whiter shade of ecru. You will be a new Thing.mready to roar at fate or take a marginal contract.
    20141119 09:48 3dc From NASAspaceflight.com and after the Orbital explosion they are announcing NASA delaying the next SpaceX flight to ISS as NASA scrambles over the manifest to replace what they must.
    OK, so L2 has the NET target now looking at the second half of December.

    I'm not posting the NET date and back up dates in here (public) just yet as I did ask SpaceX and they said they don't have a firm NET just yet, so the new NETs may still change. SpaceX did say when they know for sure, they'll let us know.

    Also remember, December 9 was always a planning date, one that became very much subject to change via the noted impact of NASA working out priority stuff to go uphill, following the loss of Cygnus CRS-3.

    I'm posting the above at least, as I know a lot of people are planning on going to the launch and need to be aware if they are booking flights, etc.
    20141119 01:35 Skidmark Fred's given the Oclub some more storage space, Ship. No carpet or curtains yet, so you get echos.
    20141119 01:34 Skidmark Fred's given the Oclub some more storage space, Ship. No carpet or curtains yet, so you get echos.
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    20141118 22:34 badanov Pappy: You misspelled palace.
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    20141118 22:04 badanov Some Tuesday evening Puddle of Mudd:

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    It had been reported in October that an FDNY memo instructed all personnel to use more vague terms when discussing Ebola, such as 'fever travel incident.'

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    20141116 21:26 Pappy Or as CBS' Bob Scheiffer more or less alluded, the outrage from the 'establishment' isn't about the sausage making that went into creating both the Obama and Romneycare healthcare bills. It was that Gruber mentioned it - in six videos' worth of remarks.
    20141116 21:17 Pappy wretchard:

    Through the modern miracle of the Internet it is now possible to buy hippie uniforms from China wholesale at “high quality and low prices”. The phrase “hippie uniform” may sound like a contradiction in terms, but as the Washington Post’s article on mathematician Jonathan Touboul explains, it’s entirely natural. Touboul concluded that is because “hipsters” define nonconformity in terms of the ‘perceived mainstream’ and because of delays in rebellion toward it, they entered into oscillating states which effectively doomed them to uniforms. Out of what appears to be random noise, a pattern emerges. All of the hipsters start to synchronize, and they start to oscillate in unison.”

    The continuing saga of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber illustrates the timing effect. Recall that the MIT economist recently caused a scandal by telling the public that the Obama administration lied about Obamacare. Now nobody is accusing Gruber of lying. On the contrary Gruber’s offense lies in the perception that he is telling the truth about the administration lying. The truth’s got nothing to do with it, the problem is the sync. Gruber is out of sync and that’s the trouble. Once he was “smart” — which is why Nancy Pelosi, who knew Gruber before she didn’t — quoted his work copiously. Now David Axelrod called Gruber “stupid” on Twitter.

    As others Tweeted in reply, Gruber wasn’t stupid when Axelrod’s bosses hired him. He was paid $5.9 million by different government agencies to advise them on health care. But that was then, this is now. What Gruber is really guilty of is being "out of uniform." In the Obama hipster world there’s a Uniform of the Day, just like there’s a War of the Week (War on Women, War on Families, etc.) The thing about being hip is that is has nothing to do with real rebellion. Still less does it have anything to do with the truth. It has everything to do with conformity.

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    20141116 12:33 badanov Never would have guessed the G20 Summit would turn into a high school cafeteria.

    Next meeting: the G20 (now the G19) goes to Barky's house to listen to his newest Jay-Z records

    They hope Vol0dya goes home and cr1es into himself to sleep.

    Very satisfying. We may get into a shooting war with the Rooshuns, but by Gawd it will feel great when we do it.
    20141116 12:30 badanov Never would have guessed the G20 Summit would turn into a high school cafeteria.

    Next meeting: the G20 (now the G19) goes to Barky's house to listen to his newest Jay-Z records

    Very satisfying. We may get into a shooting war with the Rooshuns, but by Gawd it will feel great when we do it.
    20141116 11:18 3dc backgrounder on Orion mission: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/10/eft-1-orion-assembly-conduts-frr/
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    20141116 11:14 3dc Discussion of best viewing sites for Orion launch: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34310.0
    20141116 11:11 3dc Will do OS.
    20141116 11:10 3dc But Delta IV-H is not man rated.
    20141116 11:10 3dc Whoops Delta IV-H so all Boeing.
    20141116 11:09 3dc Skidmark - NASA is spending billions and billions on Orion and SLS. Orion unmanned test launch on a big Atlas.
    December 4 - Orion: Exploration Flight Test 1 - Delta IV-H - Canaveral SLC-37B - 12:05- 14:35
    20141116 11:06 OldSpook Check the orbits 3dc.
    20141116 11:04 3dc China has been launching a lot of spy sats lately. What the game?