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|20130521 02:07||OldSpook||There appears to be no limit to the fecklessness of the GOP in DC.|
|20130520 21:28||Pappy||The GOP leadership will respond if they wish to retain power. The Tea Party and the conservative wing will put increasing pressure on the DC party.|
Hopefully you're right.
I think they'll waver precisely because they're terrified of being accused of being tools for the Tea Party and the conservative wing.
|20130520 20:15||Glenmore||Shipman, did the primitive oil show come through?|
|20130520 19:49||badanov||Some Monday evening Dwight Yoakam:|
|20130520 17:50||Shipman||I am a Bligh fan-boy, it was his unfortuante fate to Command the Bounty as a Lieutenant and not a Captain (1 rank in that time I think) A Captain got 3 or more Marines. A Lieutenant none. It's the dark secret of the USN and HMRN that Marines are really there to kill frisky sailors if the time comes, their assault capability are just gravy.|
True story... my Uncle Charles was a Seagoing Type, perpetually annoyed and seeing deviant behavior where, well seeing deviant behavior in Norfolk. He ended up as a body guard to Adrm King and then a (yeah) a copper. He mellowed into a good chief of Police in Fernandiana Beach Fl and later into an awesome produce salesman in the bad part of TLH. I miss him, he was a hard core bastard, an enormous man with pent up anger at all things that he
A: didn't understand
2. Understood and disagreed with
iii. Figured someone was being cheated
4. was mkin fun, like his nephew. :(
funf. Listen to your older relatives.
|20130520 16:53||Bright Pebbles||@Dale |
Really the same side of the coin.
Suburban poverty soars. Map of hot spots.
|20130520 10:26||mrp||1. I know it was. I read the book.|
3. The GOP leadership will respond if they wish to retain power. The Tea Party and the conservative wing will put increasing pressure on the DC party. That's why Obama and his people targeted the Tea Party (and Sarah Palin for that matter). They are the real opposition and the true threat.
4. I read the Wretchard excerpt that you posted.
|20130520 06:19||Thing From Snowy Mountain||1. The USS Caine was fictional.|
That's what all you college boys think... but geometric logic says otherwise!
|20130519 22:57||Pappy||1. The USS Caine was fictional.|
2.That mutiny, much like the real USS Vance one, was staged by the wardroom and not the crew. However, I have read about(and have seen one) uprising by ship's crews. The latter are a result of long-festering or a series of issues.
3. In any case, I was responding to the other commenters' remarks about the lack of response by the Republican leadership about attacks on the tea party. The leadership has no regard for the Tea Party, regarding them as political amateurs, useful only for scut labor, much like the landsmen on the Bounty were - until the mutiny occurred.
4. Apparently you didn't really read wretchard's remarks. Congress - the GOP part - is still at the "maybe there's a problem" stage. The GOP is still holding to the political process, where horse-trading reigns and compromises can be made. To use a line from the article: "nobody wants to risk the political peace by some hot-headed response". Meaning if and when the GOP does act,it'll likely be at the point where it's too late to use the bicameral, bipartisan political process, or any political action taken by the GOP will be unsuccessful, because a significant portion of its conservative/Tea Party base will have defected.
5. The judiciary is politicized.
|20130519 22:57||mrp||The Bounty? Wrong naval analogy. A better one is the USS Caine. And what's the talk about "uprisings" anyway? It is past time for this Congress and our judicial system to rein in an out-of-control regulatory system that's increasingly hostile to political dissent.|
|20130519 21:51||Thing From Snowy Mountain||Planet Tahiti, with the Open-Minded Swedish Air Hostesses...|
|20130519 20:31||badanov||Working the problem.|
|20130519 20:24||badanov||Some Sunday evening Glenn Miller w/ Ray Eberle:|
|20130519 17:21||Shipman||Hot damn, Pappy is implying we're going back to Tahiti. I'm onboard.|
|20130519 16:52||Pappy||That's because the Tea Party is essentially a non-entity to the GOP, and to the D.C. political system at large. They're the 'landsmen' on the political Bounty. |
I'll leave it to you to draw the rest of the analogy. Suffice it to say I've studied mutinies, from the Bounty to the USS Vance to scores of small uprisings on other USN vessels in the 1960s-70s.
We're at the "something is wrong but things will work out" stage...
|20130519 16:43||badanov||They damn oughta be!|
|20130519 15:57||Bright Pebbles||The trouble with wretchard's post is that the republican leadership isn't too fussed about attacks on the tea party.|
|20130519 14:58||3dc||went back to 3dc nym on new linux ....|
|20130519 12:28||mrp||Sigh. Wretchard wrings his hands about a Republican response while the Obama Leftist crush dissent. Because that's the role conservatives are now forced to play with the DOJ and Treasury politicized and playing hardball against organizers and big-wallet donors. "Going for the big brass wring" isn't a matter of elections at this point.|
|20130519 12:14||Pappy||Morning from Next to The Park.|
Thanks for the tip, Shipman. I'll order the kindle version. I just have to wade through about, oh, 20 books before I can get to it.
|20130519 12:11||swksvolFF||AP, that has my son swaying and clappin'.|
Atkinson is good. Learned more about Italy in 2 chapters than in whole school.
|20130519 10:55||Glenmore||Should be a second-hand hat tip, Alaska Paul; I got it from Mostly Cajun.|
|20130519 07:43||Shipman||Stop what you are doing and go order Rick atkinson's The Guns At Last Light, the last and so far the best, of his WW2 European front trilogy. It will win a prize or 2. For reasons unknown to me I have both the kindle and hardback, I only per-ordered the kindle. So if anyone is short let me know and I will send the hard bound|
|20130519 02:23||Skidmark||Kool, but its a bolt with a manual trigger. Maybe just a concept platform.|
|20130518 23:32||Pappy||One from wretchard:|
Perhaps the most incisive comment on the Obama administration’s plague of scandals comes from the National Journal. It argues that the scandals will hurt the Republicans “by enraging the base and strengthening the faction least willing to compromise with Obama [and] could hurt a GOP shot at the presidency.” In other words the scandals could so damage trust in the system among some conservatives that they’ll simply opt out of the party game. This will impede “deal making” according to the National Journal; and deprive the GOP of the juice to put together the coalition necessary to take their turn at the trough. Once they permanently exit the game then by default only the Democrats will keep the field.
There is another danger facing Republicans which the National Journal doesn’t directly address: If the scandals go too far at unearthing the rot then even the most craven Republican will be compelled to do something about it. What the scandals have done to Washington is take the former process of political horse-trading perilously close to a zero-sum game. Each new revelation bolsters the belief that the administration has done precisely what the Republicans don’t want to do: go for for big brass ring. There are a lot of suggestive indicators. The key problem for the Republican Party — and also for conservatives of a whole — is deciding what they’re seeing. Prudence will probably stay the hand of conservatives and let things limp along for awhile. It will take more, perhaps much more to establish the belief they are actually under attack. This is as it should be, for the issues are so momentous that nobody wants to risk the political peace by some hot-headed response. Things will probably have to get a whole lot worse before a critical mass of voters choose the path that the National Journal warns against: where they exit the game.
There is still some way to go until things become crystal clear; a brief space in which to make certain about what is really going on. For once we know the knowledge will bind us. There are dangerous lines to cross, which once traversed make it is hard to go back. The structures of the Republic were designed to make stark choices unnecessary. A very precious commodity — mutual trust — is at risk in the coming days. If it is trashed and expended, it will be a long time rebuilding it again.
|20130518 21:47||Pappy||Cajun is good.|
|20130518 20:39||Alaska Paul||Some great Saturday Cajun music. Michael Doucet & Beausoleil : Kolinda Hat tip: Glenmore|
|20130518 16:22||Bright Pebbles||Assassin Inside|
|20130518 12:00||Pappy||The Russians are doing the Alpha-thing.|
|20130518 11:10||Dale||"The Federal Security Service in Russia has revealed the identity of the CIA's station chief in Moscow in a breach of protocol." What will Obama do- Dither.|
The Russians expect that in my opinion.
|20130518 08:52||Skidmark||The rules of physics still apply Bad.|
Mass, acceleration, gravity, MOA,...
|20130518 08:02||badanov||So Obama's thumb has been on the scale right along.|
There's no rules for them. There's no rules for us.
|20130518 03:24||trailing wife||rammer, if you click on Post your own article, there is a box for the article text, and all sorts of cool tools for doing stuff to it. I was really excited and intimidated when I first discovered it..|
Dear Skidmark. I will certainly admit to being something. What, exactly, that might be is still being worked out among the interested parties.
|20130517 20:22||Dale||Taking back the streets :)|
|20130517 19:39||rammer||Yes, TW, that is exactly what I was using. Is there another way?|
|20130517 18:22||Glenmore||I guess Trickle wasn't enjoying life, ddn't see it getting better, and was done doing what he was here for, and so didn't see any point staying any longer.|
|20130517 16:23||badanov||And on that happy note, some Friday afternoon Glenn Miller:|
|20130517 10:56||Skidmark||TW, you are a wonder.|
|20130517 10:53||Shipman||Damn, *ick Trickle offed himself. He was a good man and will be missed.|
|20130517 10:37||Shipman||I am going to Cedar Key shortly. I have a new lens for the Nikon but I am distressed. The soul-lessness of digital cameras is starting to bother me. It's like moving from LP to MP3, very cool to start, but something, something, something small maybe, but something is wrong.|
But then again, as Judy sez... if you don't like it... Paint it like it should be.
Holler at me, I'll buy lunch for anyone tomorrow. Cedar Key FL..... You'll love it. They take dawgs.
|20130517 06:11||trailing wife||why when posting an article using firefox there is no window into which to post article text and commentary?|
rammer, on Rantburg's front page I see:
Post a news link Post your own article
The News Link option does not have a box for article text. Could it be that is what you were working in? Skidmark, same question to you, if you would be so good as to check.
|20130517 05:17||Shipman||Après moi le déluge|
What happens when Civil Engineers Design Bombs.
Or the Air Arm of the F.L.A. practicing their dark arts in a darker time
|20130517 02:40||Skidmark||Welcome to my world with IE, Rammer.|
|20130516 23:18||Pappy||Considering the intertubes' overall attitude, it's probably 'denigrate'.|
|20130516 21:31||abu do you love||I think the google link meant 'designate' rather than 'denigrate'|
|20130516 21:30||abu do you love||from a quick google i find:|
"Après moi, le déluge" is a set phrase used to denigrate the attitude of someone who acts irresponsibly, without worrying on the consequences that his/her acts could have. Something like: "I don't care what happens next, I'll be gone", "The world could collapse after I'm gone, no big deal"
|20130516 20:51||Pappy||Louis the XV (or some say Madame Pompadour,) remarking about the coming Revolution.|
|20130516 20:26||rammer||why when posting an article using firefox there is no window into which to post article text and commentary?|
|20130516 12:38||Thing From Snowy Mountain||After me, the flood. A favorite saying of Louis XIV, I think.|
|20130516 12:25||Deacon Blues||What does that translate to?|
|20130516 11:59||Shipman||Since it's the anniversary I was reading up a little on 617 Squadron. They have the best motto evaaaaaarrrrr even tho it is French:|
Après moi le déluge
Pretty sweet I'd say.
|20130516 08:31||swksvolFF||Was going to say something about Oklahoma City having a tough night, but it seems some folks in Texas had a rougher night.|
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Unusually good comment.