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20120521 10:23 Dale Snowy I got good at managing my dreams. I stopped because I was not able to control at all times. A blend of subconscious and conscious. I found I was in both worlds even when awake. Every bit of information we are exposed to in life is accessed. No drugs. It was interesting for a time. This new invention could be used for many things, good and bad.
20120521 10:07 Dale "birthing ground" for political change. No, I believe it's the barbershops for men and hair salons for women. The talk among adults is absorbed by the youth and they carryout the opinion as Gospel.
20120521 10:04 Thing From Snowy Mountain Dale, I've heard of those, they might work for people who can do lucid dreaming to begin with. I never have. Maybe I'll try it one day.
20120521 10:04 Thing From Snowy Mountain Last night I had a strange dream about building a house in New Orleans with my mind. The rest of my family was there and I had to convince them that the house's new outline had to stay on the lot, and that there were rules and whatnot, we just couldn't build on the lakeshore levy.
20120521 10:01 Dale Snowy here you go. New invention where you can control your dreams:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147181/Dream-come-true-Two-mad-scientists-create-sleep-mask-lets-people-CONTROL-dreams.html

20120521 07:51 Deacon Blues River Tan, Sephiroth (FF7),Scarlet Johansson. Whoever they are.
20120521 01:10 Sherry Go Spurs Go..... Class Act they are
20120521 00:33 Thing From Snowy Mountain Seriously, though, that bums me out. I thought I heard that he was recovering from whatever-he-had, was out of the coma, etc.
20120520 23:18 Pappy Snowy, go to your room.



(sorry - deleted it somehow)
20120520 23:18 trailing wife Shipman: anywhere it wants to. ;-)

"Special disco version"? Is there any other kind?
20120520 22:58 Thing From Snowy Mountain Damn. I was kinda hoping he'd be staying alive.
20120520 22:57 badanov Robin Gibb dies.
20120520 22:26 badanov You got all the pretty girls, Pappy.
20120520 22:06 Pappy Olivia Benson, Bender, Natalie Portman.

That would be interesting.
20120520 21:40 Glenmore I get Captain Jack Sparrow, Bruce Willis, and Tyron Lannister (whoever that is).
20120520 21:26 Thing From Snowy Mountain I got Olivia Benson, Bill O'Reilly, and Darth Vader.
20120520 19:58 badanov My team is Dr. Cal Lightman, Jason Statham and Gordon Freeman.
20120520 19:57 badanov Zombier apocalypse game
20120520 19:39 Thing From Snowy Mountain The black illegitimacy rate is something like 70%, they're all gonna be for gay marriage if they're ordered to be for gay marriage.
20120520 18:57 Deacon Blues I agree, Pappy. Black Churches have been a "birthing ground" for political change, not without good reason, but other non-black churches have been vilified as a haven for intolerance, not for particular beliefs. The Civil Rights movement started and was nurtured by Black churches. It was the only forum they had at the time . They served their purpose at the time and now seem to be irrelevant in the Political scheme of things. I look for them to be further marginalized to our detriment.
20120520 18:32 Pappy there are Black churches and then there are Black Liberation churches. Two rather different and mostly non-overlapping communities

A rather powerful and quite influential "non-overlapping community" in Chicago, ne c'est pas? And there is no difference as far as the media and culture are concerned.

One didn't see 'Black Liberation Church' on the sign. And that the media noting it was a Black Liberation church that Mr. Obama attended was left out until the issue was too far gone to ignore. For Mr. Axelrod and his ilk to treat it as a matter of religion is disingenuous. What is and may still be being said by Reverend Wright would be held as reprehensible and 'not religious', were it said regarding any other race or advocating its political polar opposite.

It still doesn't remove my observation that black churches get handled differently by culture and media. There's no 'expression of concern' by the media when a politician speaks during a church service and ministers are encouraged by a political party to speak on a political issue to their congregations. The only exception now appears to be regarding gay marriage (a cultural trump card).

Black churches are viewed as more a cultural curiosity or ceremony than bastions of Christianity. Does them a disservice, imnsho.
20120520 18:28 Shipman Where does an Iowa find a parking space downtown?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ShpL43kL7aU/T7d7jFEPRzI/AAAAAAABoRc/S4WDU4cMFqo/s1600/PDM%2B19%2B%252815%2529.jpg
20120520 15:07 lotp Pappy, there are Black churches and then there are Black Liberation churches. Two rather different and mostly non-overlapping communities.
20120520 14:07 badanov Some Saturday afternoon Foo Fighters:

20120520 13:50 Pappy What's odd is that there's a perhaps deliberate conflation of Wright's political and racialist exhortations with his being a minister.

Then again, the leftward end of the political spectrum has pretty much left out black churches from its religion-bashing. Perhaps because it's viewed as a curious cultural aspect, like a National-Geographic-watch-as-they- put-on-the-beads-and-feathers-then-dance-and-sing-tribal-thingie. Perhaps it's because it's another outlet used to effectively advance a political agenda.

Not to say black churches aren't a significant influence or they aren't really havens for worship. But it seems almost a perversion of sorts. Not to mention the irony that it's okay to push politics in some churches while excoriating other churches for 'practicing politics' by advocating their beliefs.
20120520 13:34 Pappy The "picture of your cat" one.

Thanks.
20120520 13:26 lotp Looks like the shot across the bow re: Wright worked: Axelrod declares Mormonism off the table .

But he wants Romney to 'come out stronger' against the proposed Wright expose. The recent stories about Wright's silence having been bought until after the election must be hurting.
20120520 11:58 Thing From Snowy Mountain I had a wierd dream last night with images of snakes coiling and uncoiling in the daytime sky.
20120520 11:47 Thing From Snowy Mountain Which comment? The one yesterday or the day before about the North Koreans, or one of the ones from last night?

(Either one is fine, btw).
20120520 11:28 Pappy Snowy, can I use your comment for a blog post?

I did think it was rather odd that the NK government was rather quiet about the pirating.
20120520 08:31 gromky Just saw on Weibo that North Korea is going to release the Chinese it captured. New thought: China put NK up to it to ratchet up the pressure: "all foreigners against us, we must unite and drive them back!"

In the 10 most popular topics right now is one saying "foreign gunboats driven back by our side". The comments are pretty universally "go China", "we are strong", "resist foreigners", etc.
20120520 08:29 gromky Ugh, 1060 West Addison. Although it's pretty much the same place.
20120520 08:29 gromky 1066 West Addison, right?
20120520 08:11 Deacon Blues Morning, All. This is really funny!
A crowd of Occupy protesters in Chicago descended on Rush Limbaughs “office” Thursday to air their grievances about the conservative radio host.
The problem? Despite their references to “Rush’s office building” and “Rush Limbaugh’s studio,” they weren’t in the right place — not by more than 1,000 miles.
20120520 03:10 3dc I totally understand how SpaceX must feel about those check valves. I keep one or two extra check valves around for my sump pumps. In my experience a check valve and comrade Murphy are on the best of terms.
20120520 02:32 badanov Just finished watching Beaufort, an Israeli war flick set in the early 2000s in southern Lebanon.

Good general war movie.

I very much recommend this film.
20120520 00:37 3dc Thing - totally agree.
20120520 00:17 Thing From Snowy Mountain But anyway, ain't it funny how real live honest conspiracies are almost _beneath the notice_ of the Alex Jones types?
20120520 00:15 Thing From Snowy Mountain Another thought about Google and facebook: by putting _everything_ you do under the Great Panopticon of the search engine, it kinda kills your desire to use the net for anything more than posting pictures of your cat.
20120520 00:13 Thing From Snowy Mountain Good points. Also a coincidence. I had been thinking about the 'crowding' function of propaganda lately, esp. in relation to the War On Terror and Conspiracy Theories.

The whole "9/11 was an inside job" thing had a function completely separate from actually getting anyone to believe it, and that was "let's crowd out among certain demographic groups the idea that 9/11 was a state-sponsored event by casting things in the dialectic of "OBL was a supervillian out of James Bond" vs. "9/11 was an inside job done by either the Bush administration or by a more nebulous 'them' that the conspiracy theorist will never have to actually name and therefore won't have to stake out a definite position.
20120519 23:39 Pappy Seriously, I agree.

Methinks Google has a major role in that.

Guess people figured out a) information has value to someone and you can (over)charge for it, or b) if you lay out your propoganda on the intertubes and fix it so it's all you see on the searches, it kinda crowds out everything else and/or 'controls the discussion'.
20120519 22:51 Thing From Snowy Mountain Not quite what I meant, although I do wish the damn kids would get off my lawn.
20120519 22:23 Pappy Well, yes.

Then again, to be sour about it, a lot of things are.
20120519 21:07 Thing From Snowy Mountain I was thinking a while back, it sure seems like the internet's less than it used to be.
20120519 18:50 swksvolFF Back to assembly.

Worst description of hail ever: egg sized.
20120519 18:48 swksvolFF Back in the day I showed up for my first day of French lessons. Certainly one of those classes where knowing the teacher is important. She says that not only is she from Frawnce, but lived in Pahri when ze bosch took control. WoW! I'm not only learning French, but Parisian French. She would do things like, "Oui, that is definately proper French, but we on the streets would also say this phrase like this:"

Now imagine I revisit the campus, where is Mrs. ___? and I find out she is not from Paris, or even France, but from Lincoln Nebraska. Whoah, bit of a violation of the teacher-student trust there. How much of what she taught do I now believe.

So to me, it is not that Barry was born anywhere, was crafting an image, or even peddling a book. It says he was a journalist, an editor, we are told he lectured, are assured of his credintials, and he is willing to lie about where he is from so that he looks important in a book with Joe Montana et al.

There is a scene in Open Range where a kid is caught cheating looking at other peoples cards. The line goes something like if you are going to ruin your reputation as a honest man, at least do not do it over something as meaningless as a game of cards.

With all those titles and position, stating he was born in Kenya is that game of cards. And what is with Hahvahd, I know academics, they critique the grammer of write-ups like this, so it is near impossible in my mind to think that not only Barry, but a collegue did not check this out.

I do know this. If I found out one of my employees lied about where they were from, I'm cleaning my boot and changing the locks.
20120519 17:41 swksvolFF Thats it, I'm a bit scattered today time-wise so had to fit a lot into a little, sorry.
20120519 17:05 lotp Ah. Yes, that would fit what I understand to be Romney's management style, especially if he had coordinated quietly behind the scenes to ensure key people were engaged.
20120519 15:59 Pappy If I interpret it correctly, he's saying that Willard's team has not only prepped for a presidential campaign, but also to run the Republican party's overall campaign season (multi-regional if not national).
20120519 15:40 lotp swksvoIFF, could you explain what you mean by an Executive run? In fact, I'm not sure I understand your comment overall ... my slowness, no doubt.
20120519 14:25 swksvolFF Have heard it both ways, but the play off der fuhrer. I wonder if that feeling is that Team Romney has not only prepped for 4 years for a GOP run, but Executive run as well, and may have a bit more going on that it appears. Trying to be as objectional as possible, signs are pointing to no for the demos as seen during primaries (not so much Oklahoma but Arkansas is interesting, WV), the number of high profile d's retiring such as Purdue in NC, and a race in NE which is getting interesting, and of course the double-down in WI. Champ may be bravely brandishing the Bully Pulpit, but the flanks may be already enveloped.
20120519 12:49 Visitor ***SPAM?*** There is a Goldie wolfhound in the crowd. An odd looking creature. Rather nice tho, not as singularly stupid as a wolfhound.
20120519 11:29 Pappy The 'R' in our FUBAR is 'Recognition'.
20120519 11:27 Pappy So, let's play nice!

I wonder if the GOP political ammunition is being used up a bit early in the presidential campaign (the MA Senate race is another story).

Then again, the Romney camp likes to hit early and dirty (witness the primary season).

I like the Breitbart approach of smacking the media for not doing its job.
20120519 11:23 badanov FUBAR is a term that means Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.
20120519 10:46 swksvolFF Der Fubar is new to me, though I am on the outside of the pony express.

lotp, had the same thought, if the original story itself is true enough.

My Austrian German is a bit rusted, does that say The Dick in the Hat?
20120519 10:35 badanov This guy is posting this stuff all over right and conservative blogs.

Pretty nasty, if you ask me.

So, let's play nice! I certainly wouldn't wanna be called a racist.
20120519 09:30 lotp Pappy, yes - it did. ;-)
20120518 21:15 Thing From Snowy Mountain Oh shoot, I had me a sock on. excuse me.
20120518 21:12 Pappy The point being made, the PAC backed off

It also got them about 3-4 days of free media publicity on the good Reverend.
20120518 18:07 Bright Pebbles haha
20120518 13:28 lotp A speculation:

The "we're going after Rev. Wright" strategy announcement was a shot across the bough of the Dems in response to a couple days of MSM ramp up on Romney and Mormonism.

The point being made, the PAC backed off. For now.
20120518 13:06 Dale http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/04/my-wife-joanne-has-als-lou-gehrigs.html

Mike "Mish" Shedlock lost his wife yesterday to ALS.
20120518 11:15 3dc
Launch hazard area:
http://www.patrick.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-120406-076.pdf

Restricted airspace map:
http://www.patrick.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-120406-075.pdf
20120518 09:09 swksvolFF Any sports people, how is it Labron James is MVP of even his own team, nevermind NBA? No Mario Chalmers and it isn't even close (if by 20 is close).

Also, LA Kings, just destroying opponants. What is it they are doing right?
20120518 08:28 Bright Pebbles http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2012/05/18/the-mystery-of-the-kenyan-birth/
20120518 00:08 badanov SEMAR Admiral Mariano Francisco Saynez Mendoza, from press accounts, seems to be a hard nosed guy about his role in Mexico's Drug War.

He has said in the past, (and it has totally pissed off the international community) that human rights groups are often in the pay of the drug cartels, and Mexican press information supports that contention, but he also says that the Mexican Navy will not "tolerate violations of human rights (within the ranks) either by error or lack of professionalism."
20120517 23:09 Sherry Haven't read Clancy in years.... recently, my BIL was traveling somewhere, the only book he could find in the airport.... well, it was Clancy's Against All Enemies, published in June, 2011. Passed it on to me.....

About the drug cartels and connections with terrorists from over there, making deals to get them into the USA.

Pretty good read.... but I have a question from the reading.... the Mexican Navy was presented as the only "good guys" in the entire country. Is that true?

I remember a couple of days after Katrina hit, big deal, the Mexican Navy arrived in San Antonio to much fanfare...

Would like to believe that Clancy is right with this detail....

To you bad....

20120517 22:45 Pappy Just because I'm inna weird 3-hours-of-sleep-a-night-and-lotsa-adrenalin-for-the-past-week mood:



20120517 22:14 Pappy Pappy, as senior Goat, you're up as Chief of the Boat for the RB Navy's CB90

T'would be an honor, though I was never a Chief (got mistaken for one a few times - must've been the white hairs and the lack of polish).
20120517 22:14 badanov Shaka, when the walls fell, but The river Temarc in winter
20120517 22:12 Pappy Personally, I'd beat the drum that the media failed to do what their self-vaunted ethics sed they should do.

But not in the Burg.
20120517 21:48 swksvolFF has lived

is from
20120517 21:47 swksvolFF She's composite girl. In Obama's world.

Lie enthusiastic. Truth elastic.

He can quote Bill Ayers, has lived everywhere.

Obamanation, meme is a creation.

Come on Biden go enliven.

mmm, mmm, mmm. yeah!
20120517 20:57 Thing From Snowy Mountain The thing us inferior people don't understand, Barack is a composite, just like his girlfriends and his dog.
20120517 20:52 Thing From Snowy Mountain @ Weaselzippers:

Hezbollah Commander With American Blood On His Hands Turned Over To Iraqi Custody By Obama About To Be Released…
20120517 20:44 Thing From Snowy Mountain Seen @ AOSHQ comments:

The same guy who edited himself into every other POTUS bio didn't obsess over his own? Yeah, right.

Allegedly first tweeted somewhere.
20120517 20:36 swksvolFF Sorry, slides, screaming kid has me dizzy.
20120517 20:34 swksvolFF You mean lil' Barry?

I was afraid clips meant a PP Show.
20120517 20:28 Thing From Snowy Mountain Some days I just want to sit down and eat my spicy guacamole without any help.
20120517 20:26 Thing From Snowy Mountain i.e. his tendency to Make Sh*t Up on the fly to suit himself, without blinking

Yeah, it's the whole "I was a natural born citizen from Hawaii and eligible both _before_ and _after_ I was born in Kenya" thing.
20120517 20:21 Bright Pebbles As a non-american. I think I share something with the Zero (not being eligible to be President), that "Birth certificate scan" was not a scan.

Something REALLY odd going on.
20120517 19:57 3dc OS - check your gmail.... a "cool" story
20120517 19:56 Sherry OS -- being a boat person (mostly sailboats) I second the adoption of a Rantburg boat....

Oh --- and I liked your unclassified debugging of that article ----

Get bored more often.....
20120517 19:38 badanov Shaka, when the walls fell.
20120517 19:31 Deacon Blues PS, that's why I didn't post it to Rantburg.
20120517 19:30 Deacon Blues Actually, Dale, as the article says it's not a Birther issue, although it does fuel the fires of the Birthers, but what OS said. Can you believe anything about this man? He obviously thought being a foreigner would help him in younger life so he adopted that personna. He is like a chamelion, adopting whatever is best at the time.
20120517 19:17 Dale This is a dead issue here. Remember Steve put everyone on notice that the birther issue was not a subject to be covered on Rantburg. O will be given a pass and it will be business as usual.
Nothing has changed with his support. Should he lose the election he will not be gone. He will be just as active working as if he is the true president. He will be given air-time on any issue and will media overwhelm any succeeding administration. In four years he could be back big-time.
20120517 18:41 OldSpook Pappy, as senior Goat, you're up as Chief of the Boat for the RB Navy's CB90.

LOTP, Paralysis by Powerpoint was bad before, but it went away back in 02-04 or so that I am personally aware of. I think banning Powerpoint would be a wise first step - we seemed to do better without it back in the day, when you actually had to write words and sufficiently think through your Op to be able to verbally brief it (with, at the most, a couple of flip charts, or maybe a sand table).

20120517 18:27 lotp re: the video -

In early 2002, the staff in Afghan were trying to do effects based assessment and brief the theater commander by updating 75 slides twice a week.

[shakes head]
20120517 18:23 lotp I agree with you, OS, on the Kenya story. Breitbart's site gets it right - the real issue is the changing stories that surround O.

i.e. his tendency to Make Sh*t Up on the fly to suit himself, without blinking
20120517 17:54 Thing From Snowy Mountain OS: We'll go Trolling For Nessie... Like A Boss.
20120517 17:53 swksvolFF I agree. BO was a thirty year old nobody, but the author needed something to type up so where did that come from? Gee, some Hahvahd law bum or Joe Montana? Know where I'm going, 'specially in 91. Taking a Cherokee approach
20120517 16:49 OldSpook TFSM, I nominate the CB90 to be the Offical Rantburg Bass and Ski boat. DaveD or AyBee can keep it up at the lake.

Deac, thats bad stuff. Birthers are going to go nuts. And for all the wrong reasons. They should concentrate onthe deciet and lies, not on the "natural born citizen" stuff. Need to open Obama up and fully discredit the man and destroy the image the press has crafted and protected (and destroy the complicit partisan press while we are at it)
20120517 16:14 Deacon Blues This is gonna put a lot of panties in a knot.
20120517 12:07 OldSpook This is making the rounds in the SpecOps (and former) community. Current (anonymous) Army operator made it. Civilians might not get it, but anyone that's been in ops will. (This may rattle some political doors at regiment and group level, so watch it while its still there)

20120517 02:30 OldSpook Could really pull a pile of water-skiers with the CB90.
20120517 00:12 Pappy It's notable for what Mr. Jones doesn't point out

True. Which either sez that Mr. Jones doesn't appreciate, is impatient with, or just doesn't understand the Administration's Machavellian approach, or he's just another garden-variety lefty with the conventional confront-big-oil attitude.
20120516 22:35 badanov A moment of silence
20120516 22:26 Thing From Snowy Mountain Damnit OS, I was happier not knowing about the CB90 and that I can't afford one.
20120516 22:20 Thing From Snowy Mountain @ Hotair, they quote Van Jones:

I’m critical of myself, first, and the environmentalists. When the oil spill had happened in the spring of 2010, there was another moment to say, ‘Hold on a second, let’s relook at energy policy in America. Should we be subsidizing companies who are risking our health immediately and in the long-term?’” We didn’t do it. You’ve never seen the environmental movement more quiet during an oil spill. I guarantee you, if John McCain had been President, with that oil spill, or George Bush had been President with that oil spill, I’d have been out there with a sign protesting. I didn’t, because of who the President was. Well, that’s a bad, uh, uh…that’s not good for the earth, it’s not good for the cause, it’s probably not good for the President. It’s certainly not the way we should conduct ourselves.

And so, I’m very tough on progressive movements and leaders, including myself, who did not stand on principle, based upon who we looked across and saw as President.


It's notable for what Mr. Jones doesn't point out: The Administration ran both the spill response/containment/cleanup and the accident investigation as if to set out to "prove" that oil drilling is both expensive and accident-prone. Protecting the environment took a back seat to producing the oil-drenched birds for the anti-drilling commercials.
20120516 22:19 Pappy Methinks it won't be as modern a craft, OS.
20120516 22:10 Thing From Snowy Mountain That day could have gone better. At least I got paid.

I think I like the original version of this song the best.

I can't listen to it on the ipod without the album cover creeping me out.


20120516 21:11 lotp Comedy Central riffs on the Obama-inserts-self-into-other-Prez-bios theme:

On March 4, 1841 William Henry Harrison became the first president to have his photograph taken. Today, the most dangerous place in America is between President Obama and a live camera.
20120516 20:30 lotp A bluegrass classic, here by Patty Loveless and Ricky Skaggs:

20120516 19:49 OldSpook bayesian spam has really picked up in the past few days in the Oclub.
20120516 18:04 badanov I think I got hoist by my own petard...
20120516 14:00 3dc Glanced at it. Spent the past two days doing yard work and trimming my trees (chain saw) so haven't had a chance to do more.
20120516 12:08 OldSpook Sorry if thats a bit too much on the Private Navy thread. I was bored. But it is a nice looking patrol boat that's the likely actual bot that's going to be used, and I think Im right on the correction of the article's original author.
20120516 11:54 Thing From Snowy Mountain 3dc: I sent you something, was a link from autodesk about their new 3d scanning service. I was wondering what you thought.
20120516 10:31 3dc AP after that little Greek rant you are going to love that little myth destroying book I sent you.
wiki on the book
20120516 09:21 Dale Robin Trower and Jimmy Hendrix had similar sound. Just something Trower had to live with.
20120516 09:01 Dale Little mellow;

20120516 00:07 Thing From Snowy Mountain Good night, sapients.
20120516 00:05 Scooter McGruder Cookie set?